Thursday, November 1, 2007
Theory in the studio, part 3
OK, I am bringing theory into the studio – I hope. In thinking more about Buchloh’s article on Gerhart Richter’s contemporary history paintings, and looking back thorough some of my own, which I’ll show today – I was trying to do the same thing and didn’t realize it. The updating of the history painting as a way for an artist to make a political statement, or a way chronicle an event that mass media ignores I find exciting.
Friday, October 26, 2007
Ruins and Fragmentation
In Wu Hung’s article, he uses how Chinese artists react to ruins of different periods as a thread to talk about several different decades of Chinese contemporary art.
Firstly, he talks about the representation of ruins in Chinese history was different with Europe in two respects.p310
The reason why the aestheticization of ruins took place mainly in poetry is that the In Chinese traditional culture, ruin means “a big pile of dirt” or “a big field”. Because most of the traditional buildings of China are wooden, the house that was demolished just left a pile of dirt. The ruin in Chinese cultures is not a physical thing, but a site which can arouse some reminiscences. These reminiscences can be expressed either in poems or in paintings.
Another concept that relates to ruin is “trace”. Compare trace with ruin, the former is more obvious and substantial. It can be used to create image systems.
Secondly, the article talks about what happened when Chinese traditional encountered European “ruin” culture. The most influenced area is the photography.
Thirdly is the ruin and fragmentation as the influences of the Cultural Revolution (1969-1979).
The Big Character posters are the real visualization of Cultural Revolution. During 80’, some political pop artworks that described ruins of Cultural Revolution showed up. Some of the artworks were influenced by Scar art from Europe; some are the avant-guard works which tried to abstract the Cultural Revolution.
Fourthly, Wu Hung describes the ruins in China around 2000. These ruins are the destruction of the old buildings. Because of the rapid growth of the city, increasingly new constructions need to be built. The artworks that shows these ruins are neither contain pain not represent past or future. It shows the symbol of “suspending” which is formed by the rapid change of the history. These feelings are uncertain, mysterious and lost.
Firstly, he talks about the representation of ruins in Chinese history was different with Europe in two respects.p310
The reason why the aestheticization of ruins took place mainly in poetry is that the In Chinese traditional culture, ruin means “a big pile of dirt” or “a big field”. Because most of the traditional buildings of China are wooden, the house that was demolished just left a pile of dirt. The ruin in Chinese cultures is not a physical thing, but a site which can arouse some reminiscences. These reminiscences can be expressed either in poems or in paintings.
Another concept that relates to ruin is “trace”. Compare trace with ruin, the former is more obvious and substantial. It can be used to create image systems.
Secondly, the article talks about what happened when Chinese traditional encountered European “ruin” culture. The most influenced area is the photography.
Thirdly is the ruin and fragmentation as the influences of the Cultural Revolution (1969-1979).
The Big Character posters are the real visualization of Cultural Revolution. During 80’, some political pop artworks that described ruins of Cultural Revolution showed up. Some of the artworks were influenced by Scar art from Europe; some are the avant-guard works which tried to abstract the Cultural Revolution.
Fourthly, Wu Hung describes the ruins in China around 2000. These ruins are the destruction of the old buildings. Because of the rapid growth of the city, increasingly new constructions need to be built. The artworks that shows these ruins are neither contain pain not represent past or future. It shows the symbol of “suspending” which is formed by the rapid change of the history. These feelings are uncertain, mysterious and lost.
Thursday, October 25, 2007
How were these articles discussing aesthetics? Perhaps it is my addled brain, but I only found reference to aesthetics in the Richard Serra article and that article didn't seem to discuss the "public sense" of aesthetic as having value.
I mean, doesn't Thomas Kinkade fit into the discussion of aesthetics?
I mean, doesn't Thomas Kinkade fit into the discussion of aesthetics?
Responding to the question "Does the artist actually think of theory while making art?," I think it depends wholly on the artist and specifically what the subject matter is and how the artist works. I don't know if Warhol thought so much about art theory as he did sensationalism (spectacle) or other psychoanalytic stuff when he produced the Death and Disaster series. Often I have to wonder even if it appears as though an artist was thinking about or responding to art theory it could just as easily be a much less cerebral and more visceral response to what's happening around them. If someone, in retrospect, writes about the state of social, political, you-name-the-issue issues in art and then applied those theories to artist or their respective work, it would then seem like the artist thought about theory from the get-go. Aren't all movements or catagories named after the fact? For instance, did Helen Frankenthaler refer to herself as a "post-painterly abstract expressionist" or did Marsden Hartley refer to himself as "an early modernist?" Most, if not all movements are named after the fact, aren't they? So what's to say that someone looking back at the socio-political atmosphere (or you name your own issue) of the time wouldn't look at work and name a category or movement for it? And another question: is there a difference between an artist who is consciously refering to, responding to or considering art theory when working and an artist who is knowledgeable about art history?
I just looked over the blogspot and noticed that my post from earlier today never posted so I will try to reiterate what I originally wrote, But I will also post it again once I get to my home computer.
There is a quote in the Notes on Surface article on page 305 and the author is talking about Kara Walker's art, but I think it is relavent to all the artist referenced within all the articles. Joselit says that Kara's cutouts, "constitute an instance not of reiteration, but of rearticulation". The rearticualtion comes in with the context of the work. Where is this work seen, whom is veiwing it, and what place in history or contemporary history is this art now in context with? This I believe holds true not only to Kara Waler's cutouts but to Richter's paintings as well. His reappropriation of the the photographs is not only a reiteration of the subject matter, but it is a rearticulation of a time, place, viewer, history, etc. He is reappropriating contemporary history with a medium of association with historical history./representation (Did that make sense)
The Buchloh articles states, "The inhability of painting to represent contemporary history resulted first of all from the transformation of historical experience into an experience of collective catastrophe. It therefore seemed that only photography, in its putative access to factitiy and objectivity, could qualify as an instrument of historical representation".
The question was raised by Ginny about if the artist is aware of theory when creating the art? I think in this case of Richter and the Chinese Post Modern movement, the artist are very aware of the history and theory surrounding thier medium and modes of artistic rearticulation.
There is a quote in the Notes on Surface article on page 305 and the author is talking about Kara Walker's art, but I think it is relavent to all the artist referenced within all the articles. Joselit says that Kara's cutouts, "constitute an instance not of reiteration, but of rearticulation". The rearticualtion comes in with the context of the work. Where is this work seen, whom is veiwing it, and what place in history or contemporary history is this art now in context with? This I believe holds true not only to Kara Waler's cutouts but to Richter's paintings as well. His reappropriation of the the photographs is not only a reiteration of the subject matter, but it is a rearticulation of a time, place, viewer, history, etc. He is reappropriating contemporary history with a medium of association with historical history./representation (Did that make sense)
The Buchloh articles states, "The inhability of painting to represent contemporary history resulted first of all from the transformation of historical experience into an experience of collective catastrophe. It therefore seemed that only photography, in its putative access to factitiy and objectivity, could qualify as an instrument of historical representation".
The question was raised by Ginny about if the artist is aware of theory when creating the art? I think in this case of Richter and the Chinese Post Modern movement, the artist are very aware of the history and theory surrounding thier medium and modes of artistic rearticulation.
I've had the same thought as Ginney, does the artist really consider all these theoretical outcomes when they are making the work? A lot of times I think that it is easy for an outside critic to read into much larger contexts than the artist actually intended to participate in. I also feel that in hindsight, it is much easier to place a work within a certain theoretical context, modernism, post- modernism, etc. than it is to place a more current work in a time period that is till undefined (post-PostModernism).
For example, looking back at Serra's Tilted Arc in the Carson article, one is able to see the ways in which his piece conversed directly between modernism and minimalism by challenging the Modernist notions about site. And then it further moves into post-modernism with the discussion and numerous writings about the work after the fact.
But on the other side, I think Robert Morris' work is very aware of the theoretical moment, especially in the time that he's making it. His "Corner Piece" and "Four Mirrored Cubes" directly deal with the rejection of Greenberg's "transcendent experience". Instead of wanting the art-viewing experience to stop time, his work intends to make the viewer much more aware of time and space, and their physical relationship to that space, as well as the object's relationship to the environment.
Both of these artists are aware of the theories they are trying to break while they are making the piece. I believe that is the overall point of the work, to change the perspectives of previous standards of how art (particularly sculpture) can function. But I am not sure that artists today are in such a direct conversation with previous ideologies. I guess that's why it's called post-postModernism.
For example, looking back at Serra's Tilted Arc in the Carson article, one is able to see the ways in which his piece conversed directly between modernism and minimalism by challenging the Modernist notions about site. And then it further moves into post-modernism with the discussion and numerous writings about the work after the fact.
But on the other side, I think Robert Morris' work is very aware of the theoretical moment, especially in the time that he's making it. His "Corner Piece" and "Four Mirrored Cubes" directly deal with the rejection of Greenberg's "transcendent experience". Instead of wanting the art-viewing experience to stop time, his work intends to make the viewer much more aware of time and space, and their physical relationship to that space, as well as the object's relationship to the environment.
Both of these artists are aware of the theories they are trying to break while they are making the piece. I believe that is the overall point of the work, to change the perspectives of previous standards of how art (particularly sculpture) can function. But I am not sure that artists today are in such a direct conversation with previous ideologies. I guess that's why it's called post-postModernism.
Theory in the Studio, Part 2
I seem to remember (although I haven’t been able to find it again) that Richter said of his "Candle" paintings that he made them because they were commercially successful -- an admission that has stuck with me (although maybe I made it up). I’m looking to verify that reference. Because, if my memory is correct, again I wonder about Buchloh’s comment about them... serving so convincingly as grotesques: brilliantly performing the technical availability of such pictorial types while at the same time publicly invalidating any actual experience once conveyed by the genre…. Buchloh has every right to make such a case – but it may not relate at all to the artist’s experience or intent --, and as the artist rather than the academic, I remain curious about whether and where such an intersection might exist.



Two llinks for Chinese political pop artworks:
http://www.longmarchspace.com/images/capital%20exhibition/e-season1.htm
http://www.longmarchspace.com/images/o-site2/czhd/hgz/zp/index.htm
links for some contemporary artworks:
http://www.chinesecontemporary.com/artists.htm
http://www.artscenechina.com/
articles:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/china.50/inside.china/art.overview/
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HMU/is_12_30/ai_111164129
site specific
Last night I watched the film Born into a Brothel and couldn't help but realize connections that covered what we have been discussing in class such as the other, the exotic, site specificity, identity, authenticity, spectatorship, etc. Not knowing anything about photography made me question the photographs that were taken by those children and I wonder if this film has made its way into discussions in photography classes? It seemed to me that the photographs shown were good photographs I mean they felt artsy but also makes me question why? Were these children taught the aesthetics of what a good photograph should look like or certain elements it should contain? Were they taught a western perspective of photography? Are they appealing because they signify the exotic or in relation to the Carson article is there an element of site specificity which only would have been possible because the artist lived in the village with them and was able to nurture and guide her students through the photographic process? And through that guidance were the students more prone to take photos that their teacher would like? Which then brings up questions of ownership, fuck i don't know maybe we'll talk about it in class.
Sunday, October 21, 2007
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That is an interesting question, Ginney. Does the artist actually think of theory while making art? I wonder about that too. That might be a good question to start the next class with, what do people think?
Honestly, I found Juli Carson's article quite hard to understand.
I liked Buchloh's topic and the Artists he mentioned. I looked up some of the pictures (Richter, Warhol, Kiefer) and I found them very good and honest- just because they demonstrate and express (through the artist's eyes of course) a situation in time that people do not want to be reminded of. They are not embellished, they do not take away thre truth and for sure it is not very easy to look at them.
I am wondering, do any of you think that they are provocative? It would be interesting to know what people actually think about those kind of pictures, painings etc that show a lot of emotion, detail and truth in a harsh way.
I compare it to the media where one does not find a lot of pictures showing details that present the reality of events. But, isn't that exaclty that what people need to know?
Thursday, October 18, 2007
Theory in the studio
Listening to Whitney Chadwick’s lecture underscored a question that has been forming in my mind all semester. How does an artist connect with theory WHILE they are making art? Does theory play a role in the creative process of some (or many) artists? I can appreciate that intellectual analysis separate from the artist can make a broader contextual sense of an artist’s work.
I don’t know Ghada Amer’s work, or what she’s said about it. Ms. Chadwick’s elaborate discussion of all of the symbols, metaphors, and meanings of her work may have come straight from the artist, but I kept wondering, does the artist ever cry “Sounds good, but I never even thought of that!”?
I don’t know Ghada Amer’s work, or what she’s said about it. Ms. Chadwick’s elaborate discussion of all of the symbols, metaphors, and meanings of her work may have come straight from the artist, but I kept wondering, does the artist ever cry “Sounds good, but I never even thought of that!”?
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
too much binary
The Tuesday night lecturer (sorry I can't find the name!) I thought was emphasizing binaries too much. Similar to the criticism of Kara Walker that Joselit sites - I felt like the reiteration of old oppositional categories is not really helping anymore. She used the term "destabilizing" a lot in reference to, for example, art that addresses gender roles through "hybrid" pieces. Some of the work she discussed was a couple of decades old - and I think gender roles are still pretty stable. I think we need to get over our fascination with the hybrid and consider that what we call "hybrid" is just the actual state of things (not some crazy grafting of two naturally opposed categories).
I liked the Carson article a lot - I need to read Derrida. The issue of inscription is one that hits home for me because I practice code as art. The complication of inscription in her article centered around *representation* ... which is not what code based art is necessarily about. Still - questions of abstraction and forms (as in Plato's theory of) are present.
I liked the Carson article a lot - I need to read Derrida. The issue of inscription is one that hits home for me because I practice code as art. The complication of inscription in her article centered around *representation* ... which is not what code based art is necessarily about. Still - questions of abstraction and forms (as in Plato's theory of) are present.
The difficult task of history painting
There are many artists who have painted in historical reference since the birth of photography, as the dominant historical recorder, and since the blossoming of the notion of aesthetic autonomy. Gerhard Richter is famous. I don't think that the subject matter is grounds for great accolades.
Pic for Carson
Pics for Joselit
Pics for Buchloh
Thursday, October 11, 2007
Taking this week's articles into mind, how will "universal" values evolve in the future based on the prospective rise of China as a superpower? Western hegemony and capitalist dominance have given rise to the prevalence of Western values in other cultures. It would be interesting to see if Asian cultures would use the Western ideas of exoticism and “othering” against them as a sort of Orientalist backlash. Even right now, power relations are divided so that Western society stands as this cultural and economic “role model” for the world, a sort of exoticizing in itself. It will also be interesting to see the affect technology on the “unity of life” and the evolution of culture based on a more highly integrated world.
I think Gabriel Orozco’s “Mis manos son mi corazon” is a really good example where of where the artist, his work, his process and the meaning behind the work gives it the automatic pass of most art critiques. He has the Spanish name, and work about his ethnic background. I think what the essays were sayings especially Fisher’s is that when an artist, of a non-european background, makes artwork that is not “authentic” is when people start to make a fuss. I agree with the authors challenge to not look at all artwork the same. To not arrive to a conclusion about the artist and his/her work without all the facts, and excluding stereotype mentalities.
White Bread
I'd love to see more real-life examples of hybridity and syncretism. Syncretism implies not fixed elements, but a contingent affiliation of disparate terms capable of shifting positions, altering relations and with permeable boundaries. There is no simple translation, rather an untranslatability – which seems to me the way towards acceptance. And, within that acceptance, lies true subversiveness, which is what the academic argument for idealistic multiculturalism laments the lack of. The quilts that African slaves in the American South made, which concealed instructions to safe houses in “plain sight” of the slave owners, the celebration of native customs the were held on and looked like the conquerer’s own holidays. Such syncretism is irrepressible, and I feel is the place to look for true multiculturalism. Hybridity is a self-conscious, intellectual attempt at definition. Syncretism is just what happens when artists respond to their environments.
The art happens, whether it will sell or be legitimized by museums or the marketplace is a different issue. Fisher and Lee Weng Choy both made the point that elites today are “multicultural”, but Asian and African elites, sophisticated internationals, still buy into the original Eurocentric values--because that is still the economic power structure -- which is what they are all driven by. The idea of progress, of Other, is driven by the spectacle of the global marketplace run by economic elites.
Choy makes the case for Singapore being such a hybrid—an engineered, branded “New Asia”, which is really just a restrained society disciplined to be globally, economically competitive. An American friend of mine lived in Singapore for a few years, and called it Singa”bore”. We stopped-over for a day each on the ends of a trip. That was enough, there was nothing to compel us to return, which is not the case for the rest of Asia.
The art happens, whether it will sell or be legitimized by museums or the marketplace is a different issue. Fisher and Lee Weng Choy both made the point that elites today are “multicultural”, but Asian and African elites, sophisticated internationals, still buy into the original Eurocentric values--because that is still the economic power structure -- which is what they are all driven by. The idea of progress, of Other, is driven by the spectacle of the global marketplace run by economic elites.
Choy makes the case for Singapore being such a hybrid—an engineered, branded “New Asia”, which is really just a restrained society disciplined to be globally, economically competitive. An American friend of mine lived in Singapore for a few years, and called it Singa”bore”. We stopped-over for a day each on the ends of a trip. That was enough, there was nothing to compel us to return, which is not the case for the rest of Asia.
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